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(woops, meant it as a suggestion to Joey, not a question

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HvllBlau

why not make your wonderland a vehicle, and drive/fly/sail it to different setting if you get bored?

That sounds cool

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It shows how the wonderland is just an alias for imagination in general.

we have wings like in sao and fly on them. Or just portal straight to the goal

What's the difference between wonderland being a car and its surroundings or having a car in a wonderland of the surroundings?

If we go with wonderland as most used place, people with car wonderland would travel a lot and people having car in their wonderland would just have it. Or maybe do something with it

If the wonderland is a car, that implies you cannot leave the car?

No, ofc you can

The car can expand to absorb its surroundings

You just spawn there when you say "ill go into my car wonderland"

Hm, if you can leave the car, then the surroundings are also part of the wonderland

Having a car in your wonderland means you're American btw

6:03 PM

Worst vehicle for a wonderland ever

Some people enjoy cars

It's a wonderland, not a freaking highway

Enjoy a lot

6:04 PM

Maybe someone wants tesla really hard

6:04 PM

Wants to go 200km/h and feel wind on their face in the middle of the Mexico

Genry_the_frog

Wants to go 200km/h and feel wind on their face in the middle of the Mexico

In a Tesla?! Eugh

Not in a tesla lmao

Aya

If the wonderland is a car, that implies you cannot leave the car?

You can always make a second wonderland

Leave Mexico alone with that

6:05 PM

Mexico doesn't need Elon Musk

We all need catgirls. Thus, we all need elon musk (edited)

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Unfastened Belts

The car can expand to absorb its surroundings

Now I genuinely want someone to have a wonderland where the wonderland folds into a giant car

Just have a catgirl tulpa, you don't need Elon Musk

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I dont understand why wonderlands are so confusing to people

6:08 PM

have you never daydreamed anything ever in your life?

Because its usually described as something special

6:08 PM

When its really not

"can I do this" "can i do that" "does that mean..?" You are imagining shit why the fuck does this matter

6:08 PM

just do it

I think it's less that they're confusing and more people just need ideas

6:09 PM

Although I think there are other possible wonderland problems too but I haven't figured them all out, at least in our case

Did having a tulpa improve you guys life?

Unfastened Belts

It's a wonderland, not a freaking highway

wonderbahn?

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KenanW

Did having a tulpa improve you guys life?

so much

6:56 PM

you might be interested in this, a selection of people's experiences with tulpas https://imgur.com/a/FtmgsB0 (edited)

Raptoir

so much

I'm trying to create one, I started today actually, but to be honest, it scared me a bit, I'm a person who thinks a lot about what people are saying about me, so it seems like Tulpa's voice mixed in with it and made a mess

Raptoir

you might be interested in this, a selection of people's experiences with tulpas https://imgur.com/a/FtmgsB0 (edited)

Oh, thx, I'll read it

yeah that sounds accurate, it's the same kind of mental activity; the tulpa is just one of those characters (with some unique characteristics)

6:59 PM

you just have to be decisive about what is your tulpa and what is just intrusive

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has there been incidents that you think of imaginary friends everyday and they eventually becomes tulpas? (edited)

Yes

has there been incidents that you think of imaginary friends everyday and they eventually becomes tulpas?

@Tykai - jump Yes - I'm an example of one, actually.

10:39 PM

The only thing needed to make a tulpa - intentionally or not - is to go through the forcing process.

i found that part out the hard way

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Zhongli (he/him) || 🔶

The only thing needed to make a tulpa - intentionally or not - is to go through the forcing process.

What's the forcing process?

Essentially speaking to your tulpa and allowing them to speak back, sans any parroting / puppeting.

12:02 AM

Most likely, there's a little more to it than that, but that's how it happened for me.

a tulpa can helps with social fobia/anxiety?

Tulpamancy certainly isn't a reliable method of dealing with it.

What is?

I don't know what is, maybe some kind of a therapy? But tulpamancy isn't a tool designed to reliably help people with social phobia slash anxiety. It can be helpful for one person, don't make a difference for another one or even make more harm for yet another one.

What is purpose of tulpamancy? Having fun? (edited)

For us it's probably one of main purposes. The cool thing about tulpamancy is that it doesn't force you to have a specific goal.

i asked not about goal, but purpose, or else, benefits

I think real benefits of tulpamancy are very unclear. Interacting with a character in your head or learning to feel like you are another character can help you grow somehow, probably. You shouldn't count on it to be a reliable method of dealing with certain problems in my opinion though.

Genry_the_frog

What is purpose of tulpamancy? Having fun? (edited)

it depends on what you want to get out of it

12:16 PM

some people want a friend

12:17 PM

some do it because they're bored

12:17 PM

or some people do it on accident!

I LOVE YOU HONG LU

it depends on what you want to get out of it

i'm never bored. And i have friends. Am i feeling not happy enough? Not really. Why do i want to keep going? I like when people are having fun. Probably just that.

You're never bored? That's rare.

when i'm bored by something, i automatically change what i'm doing and am not bored anymore. Thats actually a problem tho, i have little control on that. But thats more like burnt out than bored. Or is periodical(pretty rare, but happens) apathy when you don't want to do anything at all, considered "bored"? (edited)

I think it counts too.

No never bored me then

Elfie is rarely bored too?

i'm always full of energy and ready to get going! Or at least i pretend to be like that until i am falling from fatigue. c: When i'm bored i probably don't exist. Maybe i will experience it when i will get more front time? I dunno

1:30 PM

also hi Regina

Hi

what are you doing?

Experiencing apathy when I don't want to do anything at all, like your host beautifully described this state above.

Genry_the_frog

i'm never bored. And i have friends. Am i feeling not happy enough? Not really. Why do i want to keep going? I like when people are having fun. Probably just that.

well, that's alright

1:33 PM

doing it for the heck of it is also a reason

Experiencing apathy when I don't want to do anything at all, like your host beautifully described this state above.

@Regina Faux (@Mon) - jump that's pretty unfortunate. Can i help you somehow?

Not really, we can hang out in tulplay or DM to wait this state out though.

KenanW

a tulpa can helps with social fobia/anxiety?

it did help me, but I did not create them for that reason

KenanW

a tulpa can helps with social fobia/anxiety?

((We've found that it can! I helped my host reconnect with his family!)) Perhaps I should explain. I have a tendency to hermit and isolate myself when I'm not in a good place. This causes me to pull away from the people closest to me, and it often causes me feelings of intense shame. It's like I'm abandoning them or something. A while back, I basically went radio silent on my mom and my brother for a period of several months. They were trying to reach out to me, and I couldn't answer them. I felt like I had to be able to explain why I left in the first place in order to talk to them, and I couldn't. There was just too much guilt and shame in the way, so even though I wanted to see them again, I couldn't break through that barrier.

((But I could! I see myself as a separate person, so what Bard does or feels doesn't necessarily apply to me! Just because he felt ashamed for hiding from his family such a long time doesn't mean I have to! So he had me take over, and I called them and planned a visit! Then when it was time, I drove us both down, and I spent the day with them. They knew something was up because he wasn't acting like himself (he wasn't, he was me!), but I was able to drag him along until I could tell them how he really fe)t and why it was so hard for him to answer! Then he was able to come back out again.)) I don't think I could have done that on my own. Bright was able to sidestep my own shame and anxiety and just go have fun, and we worked together on getting the truth of things out eventually.

I don't think tulpas can cure social anxiety, but when I was younger especially I would push Gray to go out with friends or at least go stand next to people waiting for the bus

((It's not a cure! Not really. Bard still has the same anxieties he did before, I can't make them go away! But he can use me to sidestep around them.

))

12:43 PM

>>There is also a sense of community. Under trying circumstances, the sense of having a family at your back can make all the difference.<<

12:45 PM

A lot of the time, when I'm just being myself out in the world, I experience them as little paper airplanes in their colors flying around my head. If I'm stressed or in a difficult situation, those planes move behind my shoulder blades, and it's like I can feel them touching or bumping into me there, pushing forward. They literally have my back, and I can find courage in their presence I don't normally have.

Aww, that's cute

1:06 PM

We never tried turning into paper airplanes before. Part of it though is Gray sometimes has the urge to throw me like one and I don't really want to feed that

Possible newbie question, but I would like some clarification. I’ve noticed people saying things like Tulpas don’t know anything you don’t know (as they cannot be born speaking Japanese when the host knows nothing about Japanese) but can Tulpas learn material and then you would learn it too? For example, can you read two books at a time and still gain all that extra knowledge (Tulpa reads one host reads another)? Or are both the Tulpa and the Host forced to read one book at a time together due to focus issues / limited brainpower? (edited)

What you're likely to run into is that your tulpa wouldn't be able to read a second book while you read as well. A tulpa doesn't double your ability to think, they just add new flavor to how you think currently.

Tulpas learnIng material and then you learning it would be the result of “tulpas don’t know anything you don’t know” (edited)

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You can get away with your tulpa doing things that are naturally parallel. Seeing something and calling it out while you're distracted, for example.

3:23 PM

Especially if it's related to your tulpa

I would be so hyped if someone could show they can read two books at the same time

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Reguile

What you're likely to run into is that your tulpa wouldn't be able to read a second book while you read as well. A tulpa doesn't double your ability to think, they just add new flavor to how you think currently.

Ah, alright. I sort of figured but I wanted to be sure. Thanks for the clarification :)

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

I would be so hyped if someone could show they can read two books at the same time

Yesss 100%

Reguile

You can get away with your tulpa doing things that are naturally parallel. Seeing something and calling it out while you're distracted, for example.

Oh interesting.

3:28 PM

So you could, both in memory and in the moment, notice different things? That’s handy. So one could be thinking about something and the other could be aware and in the moment and they wouldn’t miss a thing? Like in math class?

I wouldn't think of it as one and the other, but more that through making the tulpa you create new things you will notice (owned by the tulpa) and the chance that noticed things come in the form of your tulpa mentioning them to you. (edited)

Essentially different thought processes will allow for more conclusions as the tulpa can look at it from a different angle and notice things based off that different perspective

Ah alright

For an example, We might be on a walk, I'm in my head but Aqua, an avid nature lover, would recognize there is an animal up ahead that I didn't notice because my thought process doesn't mark that as important while her thought process does. In our experience it's not something that's automatically developed with a tulpa but instead develops as the tulpa makes their own memories and behaviors in the mind over time. It's pretty cool when you notice it

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